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Determining value in a draft's return - 06-18-12

Written by Seth Rorabaugh on .

With the NHL draft taking place in Pittsburgh this weekend, it has become timely to examine the Penguins' drafts under Ray Shero's tenure as general manager.

While the numbers in terms of making an NHL impact haven't been good, several factors should be considered when examining Shero's body of work with the draft.

1.) The 2006 draft was done largely with the scouting staff of his predecessor, Craig Patrick. Hired only weeks before the draft, Shero did not have enough time to fully hire his own staff so he used Patrick's scouts to run that draft. Shortly after, those scouts were let go and Shero brought in his own people. And don't forget that a major reason for Patrick dismissal in 2006 was the Penguins' inability to draft well in the late 1990s and early 200s.

2.) Shero has traded several picks or prospects in exchange for immediate help for the team. Prospect such as Angelo Esposito and Luca Caputi (right) have been dealt away for the likes of Marian Hossa and Alexei Ponikarovsky respectively. Additionally, draft picks were moved in order to acquire players such as Hal Gill and Bill Guerin, integral parts of the 2009 Stanley Cup championship.

3.) This is a pretty good team at the NHL level. It's not easy for a prospect to crack the lineup. Much like the Red Wings, the Penguins have made prospect earn their way on to the roster. Unlike the Islanders and Blue Jackets, there aren't ample opportunities to make the NHL roster in this organization. If Simon Despres (above), had been drafted by the Islanders, he probably has at least 100 games of NHL experience already. With the Penguins, he has been limited to 18.

That said, the numbers don't look all that good on paper for the Penguins. Especially when you consider Dustin Jeffrey and his 66 games of NHL experience are the second most man games for a Penguins prospect selected during Shero's tenure.

But when you compare the Penguins' numbers to the other 30 NHL teams, things aren't necessarily bad for the Penguins.

The following is a list of all 30 teams and how many players they have drafted since 2006 (Shero's first year) and how many of those players reached the NHL for that organization. Additionally, each player is listed by the amount of regular season man games they appeared in for the franchise which drafted them.

(Example: Eric Tangradi has appeared in 40 NHL games during his career, all with the Penguins. He was a 2006 draft pick of the Ducks. For the purposes of this list, he does not register for either team.)

Team Player, Position Year Drafted
(Round)
Games
Played

Islanders

21 NHL players
52 draft picks
40.4%

Joshua Bailey, C
Kyle Okposo, RW
John Tavares, C
Andrew MacDonald, D
Matt Martin, LW
Travis Hamonic, D
Nino Niederreiter, LW
Jesse Joensuu, LW
David Ullstrom, C
Kevin Poulin, G
Casey Cizikas, C
Mark Katic, D
Aaron Ness, D
Justin DiBenedetto, LW
Rhett Rakhshani, RW
Mikko Koskinen, G
Anders Nilsson, G
Matt Donovan, D
Calvin de Haan, D
Anton Klementyev, D
Shane Sims, D
2008 (1st round)
2006 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2006 (6th round)
2008 (5th round)
2008 (2nd round)
2010 (1st round)
2006 (2nd round)
2008 (4th round)
2008 (5th round)
2009 (4th round)
2007 (3rd round)
2008 (2nd round)
2008 (6th round)
2006 (4th round)
2009 (2nd round)
2009 (3rd round)
2008 (4th round)
2009 (1st round)
2009 (5th round)
2006 (5th round)
Total Games
291
271
243
184
155
135
64
60
29
16
15
11
9
8
7
4
4
3
1
1
1
1,510

Blue Jackets

16 NHL players
46 draft picks
34.8%

Derick Brassard, C
Derek Dorsett, RW
Jakub Voracek
Steve Mason, G
John Moore, D
Ryan Johansen, C
Matt Calvert, LW
Nikita Filatov, LW
David Savard, D
Cam Atkinson, RW
Maksim Mayorov, LW
Tom Sestito, C
Tomas Kubalik, RW
Allen York, G
Dalton Prout, D
Cody Goloubef, D
2006 (1st round)
2006 (7th round)
2007 (1st round)
2006 (3rd round)
2009 (1st round)
2010 (1st round)
2008 (5th round)
2008 (1st round)
2009 (4th round)
2008 (6th round)
2007 (4th round)
2006 (3rd round)
2008 (5th round)
2007 (6th round)
2010 (6th round)
2008 (2nd round)
Total Games
275
256
241
219
69
67
55
44
31
27
22
13
12
11
5
1
1,348

Capitals

11 NHL players
44 draft picks
25.0%

Nicklas Backstrom, C
Karl Alzner, D
John Carlson, D
Marcus Johansson, C
Mathieu Perreault, C
Michael Neuvirth, G
Dmitri Orlov, D
Semyon Varlamov, G
Cody Eakin, C
Braden Holtby, G
Oskar Osala, LW
2006 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2008 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2006 (6th round)
2006 (2nd round)
2009 (2nd round)
2006 (1st round)
2009 (3rd round)
2008 (4th round)
Total Games
365
215
186
149
120
108
60
59
30
21
2
1,315

Kings

12 NHL players
49 draft picks
24.5%

Drew Doughty, D
Wayne Simmonds, RW
Kyle Clifford, LW
Trevor Lewis, C
Alec Martinez, D
Oscar Moller, C
Andrei Loktionov, C
Slava Voynov, D
Jonathan Bernier, G
Dwight King, LW
Jordan Nolan, RW
Brayden Schenn, C
2008 (1st round)
2007 (2nd round)
2009 (2nd round)
2006 (1st round)
2007 (4th round)
2007 (2nd round)
2008, 5th round
2008 (2nd round)
2006 (1st round)
2007 (4th round)
2009 (7th round)
2009 (1st round)
Total Games
316
240
157
155
115
87
59
54
48
33
26
9
1,299

Oilers

14 NHL players
43 draft picks
32.6%

Sam Gagner, C
Theo Peckham, D
Jordan Eberle, RW
Taylor Hall, LW
Magnus Paajarvi, LW
Jeff Petry, D
Linus Omark, LW
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, C
Anton Lander, C
Teemu Hartikainen, LW
Alex Plante, D
Philippe Cornet, LW
Milan Kytnar, C
Johan Motin, D
2007 (1st round)
2006 (3rd round)
2008 (1st round)
2010 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2006 (2nd round)
2007 (4th round)
2011 (1st round)
2009 (2nd round)
2008 (6th round)
2007 (1st round)
2008 (5th round)
2007 (5th round)
2008 (4th round)
Total Games
366
156
147
126
121
108
65
62
56
29
10
2
1
1
1,250

Maple Leafs

9 NHL players
44 draft picks
20.5%

Luke Schenn, D
Nikolai Kulemin, LW
Carl Gunnarsson, D
Jiri Tlusty, LW
James Reimer, G
Matt Frattin, RW
Nazem Kadri, C
Viktor Stalberg, LW
Korbinian Holzer, D
2008 (1st round)
2006 (2nd round)
2007 (7th round)
2006 (1st round)
2006 (4th round)
2007 (4th round)
2009 (1st round)
2006 (6th round)
2006 (4th round)
Total Games
310
303
187
74
71
57
51
40
2
1,095

Avalanche

13 NHL players
43 draft picks
30.2%

Ryan O’Reilly, C
Matt Duchene, C
T.J. Galiardi, LW
Chris Stewart, RW
Gabriel Landeskog, RW
Kevin Shattenkirk, D
Mark Olver, C
Stefan Elliott, D
Jonas Holos, D
Cameron Gaunce, D
Tyson Barrie, D
Brad Malone, C
Colby Cohen, D
2009 (2nd round)
2009 (1st round)
2007 (2nd round
2006 (1st round)
2011 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2008 (5th round)
2009 (2nd round)
2008 (6th round)
2008 (2nd round)
2009 (3rd round)
2007 (4th round)
2007 (2nd round)
Total Games
236
219
171
166
82
46
42
39
39
11
10
9
3
1,073

Blues

11 NHL players
50 draft picks
22.0%

Patrik Berglund, C
David Perron, C
Erik Johnson, D
Alex Pietrangelo, D
Ian Cole, D
Phil McRae, C
Lars Eller, C
Jaden Schwartz, LW
Cade Fairchild, D
Jonas Junland, D
Jake Allen
2006 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2006 (1st round)
2008 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2008 (2nd round)
2007 (1st round)
2010 (1st round)
2007 (4th round)
2006 (3rd round)
2008 (2nd round)
Total Games
310
292
203
177
52
15
7
7
5
4
0-*
1,072

Jets/Thrashers

9 NHL players
44 draft picks
20.5%

Bryan Little, C
Zach Bogosian, D
Evander Kane, LW
Alexander Burmistrov, C
Spencer Machacek, RW
Arturs Kulda, D
Carl Klingberg, LW
Mark Scheifele, C
Paul Postma, D
2006 (1st round)
2008 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2010 (1st round)
2007 (3rd round)
2006 (7th round)
2009 (2nd round)
2011 (1st round)
2007 (7th round)
Total Games
356
264
213
150
25
15
7
7
4
1,041

Senators

15 NHL players
41 draft picks
36.6%

Nick Foligno, LW
Erik Karlsson, D
Zack Smith, C
Erik Condra, RW
Jared Cowen, D
Kaspars Daugavins, LW
Jim O’Brien, C
Robin Lehner, G
Patrick Wiercioch, D
Mika Zibanejad, C
Mark Borowiecki, D
Mike Hoffman, C
Andre Petersson, RW
Jakob Silfverberg, RW
Mark Stone, RW
2006 (1st round)
2008 (1st round)
2008 (3rd round)
2006 (7th round)
2009 (1st round)
2006 (3rd round)
2007 (1st round)
2009 (3nd round)
2008 (2nd round)
2011 (1st round)
2008 (5th round)
2009 (5th round)
2008 (4th round)
2009 (2nd round)
2010 (6th round)
Total Games
351
216
152
107
83
66
34
13
8
6
2
1
1
0-*
0-*
1,040

Bruins

10 NHL players
45 draft picks
27.0%

Milan Lucic, LW
Phil Kessel
Brad Marchand, C
Tyler Seguin, C
Jordan Caron, RW
Zach Hamill, C
Andrew Bodnarchuk, D
Lane MacDermid, LW
Jamie Arniel, C
Maxime Sauve, C
2006 (2nd round)
2006 (1st round)
2006 (3rd round)
2010 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2006 (5th round)
2009 (4th round)
2008 (4th round)
2008 (2nd round)
Total Games
359
222
173
155
71
20
5
5
1
1
1,012

Flyers

10 NHL players
40 draft picks
25.0%

Claude Giroux, C
James van Riemsdyk, LW
Andreas Nodl, RW
Sean Couturier, C
Zac Rinaldo, LW
Marc-Andre Bourdon, D
Luca Sbisa, D
Eric Wellwood, LW
Jon Kalinski, LW
Kevin Marshall, D
2006 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2006 (2nd round)
2011 (1st round)
2008 (6th round)
2008 (3rd round)
2008 (1st round)
2009 (6th round)
2007 (6th round)
2007 (2nd round)
Total Games
285
196
175
77
66
45
39
27
22
10
942

Blackhawks

8 NHL players
52 draft picks
15.4%

Patrick Kane, RW
Jonathan Toews, C
Marcus Kruger, C
Andrew Shaw, C
Dylan Olsen, D
Ben Smith, RW
Brandon Pirri, C
Brandon Saad, LW
2007 (1st round)
2006 (1st round)
2009 (5th round)
2011 (5th round)
2009 (1st round)
2008 (6th round)
2009 (2nd round)
2011 (2nd round)
Total Games
399
361
78
37
28
19
6
2
930

Wild

12 NHL players
36 draft picks
33.3%

Cal Clutterbuck, RW
James Sheppard, C
Colton Gillies, LW
Marco Scandella, D
Justin Falk, D
Cody Almond, C
Carson McMillan, C
Matt Hackett, G
Brett Bulmer, LW
Jason Zucker, LW
Tyler Cuma, D
Kris Foucault, LW
2006 (3rd round)
2006 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2008 (2nd round)
2007 (4th round)
2007 (5th round)
2007 (7th round)
2009 (3rd round)
2010 (2nd round)
2010 (2nd round)
2008 (1st round)
2009 (4th round)
Total Games
304
224
89
83
72
25
15
12
9
6
1
1
841

Hurricanes

8 NHL players
36 draft picks
22.2%

Brandon Sutter, C
Jamie McBain, D
Jeff Skinner, C
Zach Boychuk, C
Drayson Bowman, LW
Justin Faulk, D
Zac Dalpe, C
Mike Murphy, G
2007 (1st round)
2006 (2nd round)
2010 (1st round)
2008 (1st round)
2007 (3rd round)
2010 (2nd round)
2008 (2nd round)
2008 (6th round)
Total Games
286
166
146
72
69
66
31
2
838

Sharks

7 NHL players
34 draft picks
20.6%

Jamie McGinn, LW
Logan Couture, C
Jason Demers
Justin Braun, D
John McCarthy, LW
Frazer McLaren, LW
Tommy Wingels, C
2006 (2nd round)
2007 (1st round)
2008 (7th round)
2007 (7th round)
2006 (7th round)
2007 (7th round)
2008 (6th round)
Total Games
204
184
183
94
51
39
38
793

Coyotes

8 NHL players
42 draft picks
19.0%

Mikkel Boedker, LW
Peter Mueller, C
Kyle Turris, C
Oliver Ekman-Larsson, D
Viktor Tikhonov, LW
Chris Summers, D
Brett MacLean, LW
Michael Stone, D
2008 (1st round)
2006 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2008 (1st round)
2006 (1st round)
2007 (2nd round)
2008 (3rd round)
Total Games
208
207
137
130
61
23
13
13
792

Lightning

9 NHL players
42 draft picks
21.4%

Steven Stamkos, C
Victor Hedman, D
Dana Tyrell, C
Brett Connolly, RW
James Wright, D
Johan Harju, LW
Dustin Tokarski, G
Kevin Quick, D
Riku Helenius, G
2008 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2007 (2nd round)
2008 (4th round)
2010 (1st round)
2007 (6th round)
2008 (5th round)
2006 (3rd round)
2006 (1st round)
Total Games
325
214
104
68
49
10
7
6
1
784

Panthers

9 NHL players
49 draft picks
18.4%

Michael Frolik, LW
Dmitri Kulikov, D
Keaton Ellerby, D
Erik Gudbranson, D
Michal Repik, RW
Evgeny Dadonov, RW
Scott Timmins, C
Jacob Markstrom, G
Colby Robak, D
2006 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2007 (1st round)
2010 (1st round)
2007 (2nd round)
2007 (3rd round)
2009 (6th round)
2008 (2nd round)
2008 (2nd round)
Total Games
213
198
116
72
72
55
19
8
3
756

Predators

13 NHL players
44 draft picks
29.5%

Colin Wilson, C
Nick Spaling, C
Craig Smith, C
Jonathan Blum, D
Roman Josi, D
Gabriel Bourque, LW
Blake Geoffrion, LW
Anders Lindback, G
Ryan Ellis, D
Andreas Thuresson, RW
Mattias Ekholm, D
Mark Dekanich, G
Ryan Thang, RW
2008 (1st round)
2007 (2nd round)
2009 (4th round)
2007 (1st round)
2008 (2nd round)
2009 (5th round)
2006 (2nd round)
2008 (7th round)
2009 (1st round)
2007 (5th round)
2009 (4th round)
2006 (5th round)
2007 (3rd round)
Total Games
185
179
72
56
52
43
42
38
32
25
2
1
1
728

Sabres

11 NHL players
43 draft picks
25.6%

Tyler Myers, D
Tyler Ennis, LW
Mike Weber, D
Luke Adam, C
Jhonas Enroth, G
Corey Tropp, RW
Zack Kassian, RW
Brayden McNabb, D
Marcus Foligno, LW
T.J. Brennan, D
Paul Byron, C
2008 (1st round)
2008 (1st round)
2006 (2nd round)
2008 (2nd round)
2006 (2nd round)
2007 (3rd round)
2009 (1st round)
2009 (3rd round)
2009 (4th round)
2007 (2nd round)
2007 (6th round)
Total Games
217
140
132
71
41
34
27
25
14
11
8
706

Rangers

8 NHL players
39 draft picks
20.5%

Artem Anisimov, C
Michael Del Zotto, D
Derek Stepan, C
Carl Hagelin, RW
Dale Weise, RW
Evgeny Grachev, LW
Bobby Sanguinetti, D
Chris Kreider, LW
2006 (2nd round)
2008 (1st round)
2008 (2nd round)
2007 (6th round)
2008 (4th round)
2008 (3rd round)
2006 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
Total Games
244
204
164
64
10
8
5
0-*
699

Canadiens

8 NHL players
40 draft picks
20.0%

Max Pacioretty, LW
PK Subban, D
Yannick Weber, D
Ryan White, C
Louis Leblanc
Ben Maxwell, C
Mathieu Carle, D
Gabriel Dumont, C
2007 (1st round)
2007 (2nd round)
2007 (3rd round)
2006 (63rd round)
2009 (1st round)
2006 (2nd round)
2006 (2nd round)
2009 (5th round)
Total Games
202
160
109
63
42
20
3
3
602

Devils

12 NHL players
41 draft picks
29.3%

Mattias Tedenby, RW
Vladimir Zharkov, RW
Nick Palmieri, RW
Adam Henrique, C
Jacob Josefson, C
Adam Larsson, D
Adam Corrente, D
Matt Halischuk, RW
Olivier Magnan, D
Alexander Vasyunov, LW
Alexander Urbom, D
2008 (1st round)
2006 (3rd round)
2007 (3rd round)
2008 (3rd round)
2009 (1st round)
2011 (1st round)
2006 (1st round)
2007 (4th round)
2006 (5th round)
2006 (2nd round)
2009 (3rd round)
Total Games
101
82
78
75
69
65
34
21
18
18
13
574

Penguins

8 NHL players
35 draft picks
22.9%

Jordan Staal, C
Dustin Jeffrey, C
Simon Despres, D
Brian Strait, D
Luca Caputi, LW
Robert Bortuzzo, D
Alexander Pechurskiy, G
Carl Sneep, D
2006 (1st round)
2007 (6th round)
2009 (1st round)
2006 (3rd round)
2007 (4th round)
2007 (3rd round)
2008 (5th round)
2006 (2nd round)
Total Games
431
66
18
12
9
6
1
1
544

Ducks

9 NHL players
45 draft picks
20.0%

Matt Beleskey, LW
Cam Fowler, D
Brandon McMillan, LW
Devante Smith-Pelley, LW
Maxime Macenauer, C
Kyle Palmieri, C
Peter Holland, C
Petteri Wirtanen, C
Matt Clark, D
2006 (4th Round)
2010 (1st Round)
2008 (3rd round)
2010 (2nd round)
2007 (3rd round)
2009 (1st round)
2009 (1st round)
2006 (6th round)
2009 (2nd round)
Total Games
167
158
85
49
29
28
4
3
2
525

Stars

8 NHL players
29 draft picks
27.6%

Jamie Benn, LW
Tomas Vincour, RW
Philip Larsen, D
Richard Bachman, G
Ivan Vishnevskiy, G
Reilly Smith, RW
Scott Glennie, C
Colton Sceviour, RW
2007 (5th round)
2009
2008 (5th round)
2006 (4th round)
2006 (1st round)
2009 (3rd round)
2009 (1st round)
2007 (4th round
Total Games
222
71
63
19
5
3
1
1
385

Flames

7 NHL players
37 draft picks
18.9%

Mikael Backlund, C
T.J. Brodie, D
Lance Bouma, C
Greg Nemisz, C
Leland Irving, G
Sven Bartschi, LW
John Negrin, D
2007 (1st round)
2008 (4th round)
2008 (3rd round)
2008 (1st round)
2006 (1st round)
2011 (1st round)
2007 (3rd round)
Total Games
138
57
43
15
7
5
3
268

Red Wings

8 NHL players
41 draft picks
19.5%

Cory Emmerton, LW
Jan Mursak, D
Gustav Nyquist, LW
Brendan Smith, D
Tomas Tatar, LW
Joakim Anderson, C
Thomas McCollum, G
Riley Sheahan, C
2006 (2nd round)
2006 (6th round)
2008 (4th round)
2007 (1st round)
2009, (2nd round)
2007 (3rd round)
2008 (1st round)
2010 (1st round)
Total Games
73
44
18
14
9
5
1
1
165

Canucks

4 NHL players
36 draft picks
11.1%

Cody Hodgson, C
Michael Grabner, RW
Sergei Shirokov, RW
Yann Sauve, D
2008 (1st round)
2006 (1st round)
2006 (6th round)
2008 (2nd round)
Total Games
71
20
8
5
104

*-Have only played in postseason games.

A few thoughts:

-The top and bottom of this list is telling. The Islanders and Blue Jackets, two of the worst franchises in the NHL have produced the most man games. Meanwhile, the Red Wings and Canucks, who have won the last two Presidents' Trophies, are at the bottom.

-The Kings' list of players is dotted with key parts of the Stanley Cup championship they won last week. And in the case of Simmonds and Schenn, those players were used to acquire other key parts of their championship team through trades.

-No one drafts goaltenders like the Capitals. They have found three potential No. 1 goaltenders - Holtby, Neuvirth and Varlamov - in six years.

-The Sharks sure know how to mine the seventh round. They have found four NHL regulars in the last round of the draft.

Regarding the Penguins, things definitely could be better in terms of homegrown players, but compared to other teams, the Penguins aren't exactly in bad shape.

(Photo: Top-Bruce Bennett/Getty Images; Esposito-Phillip MacCallum/Getty Images)

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